{"id":4333,"date":"2026-03-20T17:48:45","date_gmt":"2026-03-20T17:48:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.worldpumpnews.com\/?p=4333"},"modified":"2026-03-20T17:48:45","modified_gmt":"2026-03-20T17:48:45","slug":"caroline-lucas-fact-checks-reforms-head-of-policy-on-clean-energy-lies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.worldpumpnews.com\/?p=4333","title":{"rendered":"Caroline Lucas fact-checks Reform\u2019s head of policy on clean energy \u2018lies\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div><img loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Caroline Lucas fact-checks Reform\u2019s head of policy on clean energy \u2018lies\u2019\" width=\"620\" height=\"500\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"1\" class=\"w-full object-cover rounded-md\" style=\"color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' viewBox='0 0 620 500'%3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAQAAACEN3D\/AAAAL0lEQVR42mP4z8DAwMiAARgZGJhY+P\/\/PwMDAwPDfwYGBgaGhgYGhgYGAAD9Hwlr5xRngAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg=='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, (max-width: 1100px) 620px, 620px\" src=\"\/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=360&amp;q=75 360w, \/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=414&amp;q=75 414w, \/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=640&amp;q=75 640w, \/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=768&amp;q=75 768w, \/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=1024&amp;q=75 1024w, \/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=1280&amp;q=75 1280w, \/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=1536&amp;q=75 1536w\" bad-src=\"https:\/\/www.joe.co.uk\/_next\/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.joe.co.uk%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F03%2FScreenshot-2026-03-20-at-17.40.16.png%3Fheight%3D1024%26width%3D1024&amp;w=1536&amp;q=75\"\/><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose drop-cap \">\n<p>Caroline Lucas fact-checked \u201clies\u201d about clean energy that were being spouted by Reform\u2019s head of policy James Orr.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Both Lucas and Orr were appearing on this week\u2019s edition of Question Time, where one of the main topics of conversation was what impact the war in Iran will have on UK energy prices.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Orr \u2013 whose party back fossil fuels and have conveniently\u00a0received millions in donations\u00a0from fossil fuel investors and climate deniers \u2013 doubled down on his defence of gas and oil.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>He claimed that \u201cwhen the wind doesn\u2019t blow, you need gas to back it up\u201d and blaming rising bills on what he called \u201cunreliable renewables.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Host Fiona Bruce pushed back, pointing out that oil and gas are sold on global markets which therefore sets the price that Britain then pays.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>\u201cHow does that insulate us,\u201d she asked.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>That opened the door for former Green Party leader Lucas to challenge Orr directly. She dismissed his claims outright, pointing out that fossil fuels are \u201csold on international markets to the highest bidder\u201d \u2013 meaning more drilling at home does little to shield consumers from high prices.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Orr attempted to argue that domestic supply still has some influence, but Lucas was having none of it. When he again blamed renewables, she firmly rejected the idea they are unreliable, arguing instead that the real solution lies in better infrastructure, such as interconnectors that allow countries to share clean energy when conditions vary.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Clearly frustrated, Lucas accused Orr of misleading viewers, saying: \u201cI just despair at the kind of lies James, you are telling to people,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Orr shot back that his claims were \u201cnot lies\u201d \u2013 only for Lucas to bluntly respond: \u201cThey are.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Reform have\u00a0repeatedly called\u00a0for the UK to give more licenses for drilling in the North Sea, claiming this would make the UK more independent in its energy.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>The research found that if the UK was powered entirely by clean energy, households could save as much as \u00a3441 annually on their energy bills.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>Conversely, maximising oil and gas extraction from the North Sea would only save between \u00a316 and \u00a382 annually per household.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><!--$--><\/p>\n<div class=\"custom-prose  \">\n<p>This was perfectly explained by energy secretary Ed Miliband over the weekend on Laura Kuenssberg\u2019s show, where he outlined why crowing from Reform and the Tories about drilling in the North Sea was way off the mark.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--\/$--><\/div>\n<p>#Caroline #Lucas #factchecks #Reforms #policy #clean #energy #lies<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Caroline Lucas fact-checked \u201clies\u201d about clean energy that were being spouted by Reform\u2019s head of policy James Orr. Both Lucas and Orr were appearing on this week\u2019s edition of Question Time, where one of the main topics of conversation was what impact the war in Iran will have on UK energy prices. 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